Discussion:
Wet Mail - this is total BS
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Avery McClellan
2003-09-14 13:06:20 UTC
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I recently moved into a sub-division that has cluster mail boxes.
We've been here about one year and everytime it rains our mail gets
soaking wet (not damp, but dripping). This has ruined family photos,
magazines, and all sorts of correspondence.

Our local postmaster has been contacted. He refuses to do anything.
After talking to my neighbors I've been informed that this has been a
problem in our neighborhood for almost 20 years and the USPS will do
nothing about it. Some have even contacted our US Senator.

The probllem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS. They must fix
it. I can not touch it. If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property). They won't allow us to have indivdual
mailboxes. They won't fix their leaking mailbox. This is insane.
Our personal property is being systematically destroyed because of the
USPS "give a damn" attitude.

What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
Long Gone
2003-09-14 13:24:43 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
I recently moved into a sub-division that has cluster mail boxes.
We've been here about one year and everytime it rains our mail gets
soaking wet (not damp, but dripping). This has ruined family photos,
magazines, and all sorts of correspondence.
Our local postmaster has been contacted. He refuses to do anything.
After talking to my neighbors I've been informed that this has been a
problem in our neighborhood for almost 20 years and the USPS will do
nothing about it. Some have even contacted our US Senator.
The problem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS. They must fix
it. I can not touch it. If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property). They won't allow us to have individual
mailboxes. They won't fix their leaking mailbox. This is insane.
Our personal property is being systematically destroyed because of the
USPS "give a damn" attitude.
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
How old are the units? The design of some of those units leaves much to be
desired. Newer ones seem to be somewhat better constructed. As a
suggestion, you might try some silicone sealant around the inside edges of
your compartment if you can reach them. If you are reluctant to doing that,
then ask the postmaster to have it done. Replacing units is a costly thing.
Still the postmaster should be taking some type of action. Going postal
(in the sense you seem to suggest) is not an intelligent thought.
Tex
2003-09-14 14:09:25 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
I recently moved into a sub-division that has cluster mail boxes.
We've been here about one year and everytime it rains our mail gets
soaking wet (not damp, but dripping). This has ruined family photos,
magazines, and all sorts of correspondence.
Our local postmaster has been contacted. He refuses to do anything.
After talking to my neighbors I've been informed that this has been a
problem in our neighborhood for almost 20 years and the USPS will do
nothing about it. Some have even contacted our US Senator.
The probllem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS. They must fix
it. I can not touch it. If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property). They won't allow us to have indivdual
mailboxes. They won't fix their leaking mailbox. This is insane.
Our personal property is being systematically destroyed because of the
USPS "give a damn" attitude.
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
Try getting a PO Box? Ain't a solution/neither is going postal...still
the mail would stay dry.

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Robert DeSavage
2003-09-14 14:48:05 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
Sorry. Going Postal is only for USPS employees. Kindly find another
way to go.
goPostal
2003-09-14 17:42:15 UTC
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Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Avery McClellan
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
Sorry. Going Postal is only for USPS employees. Kindly find another
way to go.
You rang?
frogs
2003-09-14 23:44:54 UTC
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Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Avery McClellan
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
Sorry. Going Postal is only for USPS employees. Kindly find another
way to go.
LMAO!!!
frogs
2003-09-14 23:58:27 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
I recently moved into a sub-division that has cluster mail boxes.
We've been here about one year and everytime it rains our mail gets
soaking wet (not damp, but dripping). This has ruined family photos,
magazines, and all sorts of correspondence.
Our local postmaster has been contacted. He refuses to do anything.
After talking to my neighbors I've been informed that this has been a
problem in our neighborhood for almost 20 years and the USPS will do
nothing about it. Some have even contacted our US Senator.
The probllem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS. They must fix
it. I can not touch it. If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property). They won't allow us to have indivdual
mailboxes. They won't fix their leaking mailbox. This is insane.
Our personal property is being systematically destroyed because of the
USPS "give a damn" attitude.
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
My family has always placed weather sensitive important items
in plastic Ziploc baggies or the like before putting in an envelope
or container and mailing/shipping off with USPS or UPS. We
all have curbside mailboxes and covered porches, but it just
makes sense - no one can control all circumstances when it comes
to mother nature!
By the way, I'd suggest never addressing items with a marker -
smears easily with just one drop of rain.
n***@yahoo.com
2003-09-15 06:11:58 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
I recently moved into a sub-division that has cluster mail boxes.
We've been here about one year and everytime it rains our mail gets
soaking wet (not damp, but dripping). This has ruined family photos,
magazines, and all sorts of correspondence.
Our local postmaster has been contacted. He refuses to do anything.
After talking to my neighbors I've been informed that this has been a
problem in our neighborhood for almost 20 years and the USPS will do
nothing about it. Some have even contacted our US Senator.
The probllem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS. They must fix
it. I can not touch it. If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property). They won't allow us to have indivdual
mailboxes. They won't fix their leaking mailbox. This is insane.
Our personal property is being systematically destroyed because of the
USPS "give a damn" attitude.
What can I do? GOING POSTAL!!! comes to mind.
It comes to mind to all of us but it's usually not the best way. The
usual common sense approach to situations like this is to find out who
the next person up the food chain is and complain to them. Mention
local newspapers and/or tv stations you've already talked to who might
end up being a source of bad publicity. Don't make empty threats. Do
talk to them first. The PO fears bad publicity more than anything.
Jaybuzin0000
2003-09-15 10:06:30 UTC
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Post by Avery McClellan
The problem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS.
I give you permission to fix it.
If anybody at any level has a problem with that
tell that individual or group to come and find me.
They can figure out exactly how to get in contact.
Post by Avery McClellan
They must fix it.
I can't get them to fix a lot of things.
It's worse than pulling teeth.
But at times I can fix things myself.
Post by Avery McClellan
I can not touch it.
You are the United States. You are the government.
Post by Avery McClellan
If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property)
It's your property.
Post by Avery McClellan
This is insane.
I agree.
Post by Avery McClellan
What can I do?
I would fix it myself.
Long's idea sounds pretty good.
If you can think of something better,
then that would be a better solution.

Maybe you can build a shed around it
or a little roof to keep the rain off of it.
Such a method would keep you
from actually "touching" it.

Good luck!
Please accept my apologies for the Service.
Robert DeSavage
2003-09-15 12:03:08 UTC
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Post by Jaybuzin0000
Post by Avery McClellan
The problem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS.
I give you permission to fix it.
If anybody at any level has a problem with that
tell that individual or group to come and find me.
They can figure out exactly how to get in contact.
Post by Avery McClellan
They must fix it.
I can't get them to fix a lot of things.
It's worse than pulling teeth.
But at times I can fix things myself.
Post by Avery McClellan
I can not touch it.
You are the United States. You are the government.
Post by Avery McClellan
If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property)
It's your property.
Post by Avery McClellan
This is insane.
I agree.
Post by Avery McClellan
What can I do?
I would fix it myself.
Long's idea sounds pretty good.
If you can think of something better,
then that would be a better solution.
Maybe you can build a shed around it
or a little roof to keep the rain off of it.
Such a method would keep you
from actually "touching" it.
Good luck!
Please accept my apologies for the Service.
If anyone must apologize for the Service, it should be those people
that set the standards with the companies that manufacture this
equipment. None of this would happen if those involved didn't accept
shit standards for premium prices. Just look at the CRAP uniforms the
USPS accepts as 'quality' apparel. Why am I not surprised at this?
Like they say - A fool and his money are soon parted. Looks like
they're all working in USPS logistics and support.
Jaybuzin0000
2003-09-15 20:50:06 UTC
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Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Jaybuzin0000
Post by Avery McClellan
The problem is this: The cluster belongs to the USPS.
I wonder about that tho.
In talking with some of my associates
it seems odd that a gang-box or cluster
would not belong to the owner, or an association,
that is in charge of an apartment complex,
town-homes, condos, etc..
Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Jaybuzin0000
Post by Avery McClellan
I can not touch it.
You are the United States. You are the government.
You elect the officials. You elect the judges
and\or the people who appoint the judges.
If a judge gave permission or an order to fix it
would that constitute enough authority?
If so, then to not fix it would be a crime.
What type of paper ought it be written on?

How much trouble would it be
to elect an official who would appoint a judge
in order to do the thing that needs to be done?
At what cost, or savings, would it amount
to simply fix the problem in the first place?
Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Jaybuzin0000
Post by Avery McClellan
If I did it would be a felony (tampering
with a US Government property)
U.S. Mail is sacred.
To knowingly allow it to be damaged
is more of an offense than not allowing it to be damaged.

Is virtual paper roughly the same as hard-copy?
Post by Robert DeSavage
Post by Jaybuzin0000
Please accept my apologies for the Service.
If anyone must apologize for the Service, it should be those people
that set the standards with the companies that manufacture this
equipment.
At times a manager or postmaster
and even people with less authority can be
very difficult to get around. Lots of red-tape exists.

Another option would be to call 1-888-USPS-OIG
and perhaps the Office of the Inspector General
can determine of the postmaster should fix it.
Post by Robert DeSavage
None of this would happen if those involved didn't accept
shit standards for premium prices.
Another option would be,
as somebody else alluded to,
get in touch with the District Manager,
or the Regional Manager\Vice-President,
and even write a letter to the PMG.

The Postmaster General's office
usually sends information back down the chain
and tells whoever's responsibility it is
to do whatever needs to be done.
This does not always work tho.
Post by Robert DeSavage
Just look at the CRAP uniforms the
USPS accepts as 'quality' apparel.
I wonder if I'll get a cap for Veteran's Day?
Post by Robert DeSavage
Why am I not surprised at this?
Cuz you've been around for a while?
Post by Robert DeSavage
Like they say - A fool and his money are soon parted. Looks like
they're all working in USPS logistics and support.
They work at all levels.
Such is the nature of a bureaucracy.

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